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Post by boorules60 on Jul 14, 2007 14:03:19 GMT -4
I'm interested too. The advantage of the turks is the strong units and free peasants. The advantage of the Sioux is the fast age up and greater quantity of units. And they don't need gold. In order to make this rush worth something, you really only get to have two shipments P_Cups. What do you think they should be... and in what order? Obviously the wolf card is one, and the other might be 700 wood? Also, we picked the Dutch because they are the best slingers because of their 7 initial peasants and their age 1 banks. The Ottomans might be able to sling you too because of all the wood they start out with and their constant peasant production. Might kill your economy if it fails though.
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Post by pcups on Jul 14, 2007 17:11:07 GMT -4
Yea ottos might be better for slinging. I would send the wolf card, and then 700 wood,maybe 700 food. If the otto tributes wood at least 150 i can build my forward barracks. I send shipments to it as well as build stuff from it. I build 5 peasants and age up with fast age up after sending my wolf card. I send 700 wood and the ottoman can send me food and 100 more wood, i build a firepit and put 2 peasants on it, this immediately makes my attack faster. I start building warclubs, i will build the wolves later on. Any new shipments i get i can either send 700 food or choose from a large range of unit cards. 2 dog soldiers 4 axe riders, 6 cetans 6/7 warclubs.
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Post by punkybruster on Jul 15, 2007 1:42:58 GMT -4
The Ax Riders would make a good third shipment for when you have killed their town and need a little raiding power. Is it better to send the 700 wood first since it will take longer to build the houses, firepit, barracks, warclubs, etc than is does to make the wolves? Just a thought because we send the 700 gold first with the ottoman slingshot. Then, if the wolf card is second, you can build them with your w/c right at your fb and it only takes a few seconds to pump those bad boys out.
Ben
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Post by pcups on Jul 15, 2007 2:01:25 GMT -4
i dont have houses....
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Post by pcups on Jul 17, 2007 15:41:17 GMT -4
The enemy's town center is down at 5:30 D, maybe a little later depending on which resources we start out with.
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Post by d on Jul 18, 2007 19:37:21 GMT -4
Punky closed the game before I had a chance to review the post game. I was impressed with your unit speed. It looks like I can do the Turk's army (10 jans, 5 abus, 5 grenadiers and 3 hussars) in about 5:15. What did you have for units and what did you lose in economy? I don't get 3 vills in age I, but can nearly match the Dutch resources with all the shipments. The Dutch never stop making vills. They tribute 1300 food and 300 gold by 4:30.
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Post by pcups on Jul 18, 2007 23:53:59 GMT -4
Well, economy wise, if youre smart, the Sioux can make a good bounce back. There is a 3 trading post card that the Sioux get in age 2 which is definitely useful. They don't need houses which makes resources easier to come by. They have the same amount of resource shipments as everyone else and their ville production is pretty good due to the fire pit. Although of course the Ottomans don't have to build villies which is nice. I would call both rushes equal, because of the fact that Sioux rush is powerful and vicious and really fast. While the Ottos still having a really powerful rush, isn't as fast, but their economy makes up for it.
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Post by punkybruster on Jul 21, 2007 1:46:28 GMT -4
Image the shock of having 40 military units in your base at 4:15 on a non-Carolina type map... holy fuck guys.
Ben
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Post by Jake P. on Jul 21, 2007 8:16:49 GMT -4
yeah holy shit guys.
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Post by d on Jul 28, 2007 15:42:02 GMT -4
To Allbinx and Mrniceguy,
You're welcome! Nice job.
D
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Post by boorules60 on Jul 29, 2007 2:39:08 GMT -4
Nick Tim and I also pulled off a pretty sweet 3 man puma rush the other day too that I'm sure you saw. The three people we were playing against had an AVERAGE of 50 elo points and 3 skill levels on each of us. OWNED in 5 minutes (or 15 if you want to get technical). I did see that Josh and Nick won 3 games in a row today or yesterday so congrats guys! We made this thing work.
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Post by boorules60 on Dec 9, 2007 4:09:18 GMT -4
Puma > Flames... Yes, we really did win a game against 2 lts in 4:39
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Post by punkybruster on Dec 9, 2007 17:43:21 GMT -4
Owned bitch. The asian maps are even better for doing puma rushes than are american maps. P.S. Whenever I'm looking at a screen shot, i try to move my mouse to "scroll over" or i try to click on units. Does anyone else do that?
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Post by punkybruster on Dec 9, 2007 17:44:47 GMT -4
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Post by d on Dec 9, 2007 22:26:09 GMT -4
Damn! I thought maybe I could abus for only 50 gold.
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