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Post by tandler on Feb 20, 2006 23:09:22 GMT -4
Ok, I found what the dutch are good at... ok, the dutch have halbadiers, royal guard halbadiers, combined with all thier upgrades and the such, do more then landshknects... They are perfect for swarming bases and the best thing is... the cost more gold then food... and gold is a thing the dutch have in abundance.
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Post by d on Feb 20, 2006 23:20:42 GMT -4
When I play against an expert dutch computer, I wondered why he kept sending endless hoards of halberdiers. Now I know! When I look at the the halberdiers costs and hit points, I can see why I had no trouble beating them.
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Post by boorules60 on Feb 21, 2006 1:02:33 GMT -4
Right, the problem is though, the dutch have plenty of anti-cavalry units and decent skirms... but they just get crushed in the early game. When Tim played as the Dutch he would do well if he could get to the 4th Age Solid... the problem is, we have become so adept at rushing, that it's hard for them to stay in the game on their own. We know their late game is solid with Halbs, Ruyters, Heavy cannons, and Banks... but it just takes too long to get all that stuff.
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Post by pcups on Feb 22, 2006 12:47:38 GMT -4
Same with ports and brittish. Quite unbeatable civs in the 5th age, the only problem is getting there.
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Post by punkybruster on Mar 22, 2006 15:53:24 GMT -4
Pat you say that the Dutch are unbeatable in the 5th age? What if two dutch versed each other in the 5th age...
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Post by Jake P. on Mar 22, 2006 18:01:58 GMT -4
Paradox...? They would probably tear a hole in the fabric of space time. LOL
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Post by pcups on Mar 22, 2006 19:56:18 GMT -4
then one would get smart and build monitors
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Post by Jake P. on Apr 6, 2006 18:59:12 GMT -4
Ummm All I have to say is....FUCK THE FRENCH-I'M DUTCH NOW!!!
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Post by Jake P. on Apr 6, 2006 19:02:55 GMT -4
Oh and Ben I have to disagree with your post about how it takes too long to get all the dutch stuff. I had 4 banks in 8:00 (maybe less) Which means that I had 50 villigers in 13:00. As far as being able to defend early game, yeah its really not that much of a problem. Some rydurs and some skirms hold out quite nicely.
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Post by pcups on Apr 6, 2006 21:37:15 GMT -4
hahahaha, oh jake. the Dutch sadly aren't good until the 5th age. French pick up at the 2nd age.
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Post by boorules60 on Apr 6, 2006 21:44:55 GMT -4
Heh... Hey PCups, Jake says he can hold off a rush in the second age ... maybe we should see if he's right
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Post by pcups on Apr 7, 2006 18:45:11 GMT -4
Haha i bet even the portuguese can pull off a rush against the dutch.
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Post by Jake P. on Apr 7, 2006 19:04:35 GMT -4
I could put up a good fight against a second age rush. Of course I would need help but so does everybody else when it comes to rushes.
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Post by pcups on Apr 7, 2006 20:48:54 GMT -4
not the russians or the germans
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Post by Jake P. on Apr 7, 2006 21:27:52 GMT -4
The russians can hold off one maybe two people rushing at the same time but not 3 or 4. Same with the germs.
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