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Post by d on Sept 8, 2006 18:07:37 GMT -4
I liked the grenadier/janissary rush so much, I decided to do one myself. (Actually, I was trying to see how I could compete in a rush game.) So, I built 15 grenadiers, 5 jans and 3 hussars in under 7:30. Nice! I can beat an expert russian every time. No sweat. Beware the Turks! Have a nice day.
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Post by boorules60 on Sept 8, 2006 20:33:02 GMT -4
Let's add 43 strelets (with more on the way) and 5 cossacks to your rush and see how it fairs!
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Post by pcups on Sept 9, 2006 5:41:18 GMT -4
id be 3/4 of the way to the fortress age with one card ready to send, and even if you do get my tc i will have 3 towers there. And trust me, anyone who plays the ottomans KNOWS they are going to rush, only the unprepared guys will NOT have a stable or a barracks. I will have both.
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Post by boorules60 on Sept 9, 2006 14:33:16 GMT -4
Yeah, I'd bet a bunch of Lancers could sit that rush on it's ass. I think he might be able to get your stable dead before you could build anything though. Most experienced players know to kill the stable first if you're attacking with grenades, or barracks if they're attacking with pikes, etc. The tower/minutemen could take on the jans but they don't do as much with grenadiers with all their range and range armor. If you could take out all the jans and hussars with the towers/TC/minutemen and then get the 5 lancer shipment ASAP, you could probably stand up to it. I dunno if your TC could last long enough though. 15 grenadiers can take out a TC in 30 seconds and they might wipe out your minutemen before they even move (remember what happened to Tim when we came at you with grenadiers?). It would be a good test.
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Post by pcups on Sept 9, 2006 19:03:22 GMT -4
Well, if you check my second most recent game a guy did destroy my TC with a jan/gren/hussar force. But i got to the 3rd age anyway, and i still had 3 towers, and usually if i remember i build 5 pikes to protect my peasants so raiding isnt a problem. ALSO, im not a poo head anymore, i dont build stables in the 2nd age just for fun. I did build 5 hussars and 4 pikies. That kept me alive long enough to get to the 3rd age. When people rush it gives me lots of experiance too, so its a good and a bad thing.
Oh and i lied, since i became more conservative with the spanish, not aging up with 7 peasants, i get to the fortress age around 8:40, thats my average. But remember, 3 towers, 1 hard ass tc, 1 barracks/stable and plenty of shipments. Although D, i have never faced a GOOD grenadier rush, so you could make me put my money where my mouth is.
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Post by boorules60 on Sept 9, 2006 19:17:32 GMT -4
And I recently revamped my ultimate rush deck as well. It has 600 and 700 of every resource which gived me the versitility to throw strelets, cossacks, and grenades at people whatever I feel like as well as have a blockhouse or two back home to hold off any intruders. Silk roads could make it kick some serious ass. The major advantage of the rush, like PCups said, is all the XP, especially with easy kills like vills and pikemen and if I'm lucky, a TC. The only thing I would argue is that you HAVE faced a good grenadier rush... mine!
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Post by pcups on Sept 9, 2006 19:59:41 GMT -4
thats true, but it was never easy to defeat before. Now its much easier than it was before. Only silly people dont scout the enemies base.
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Post by pcups on Sept 9, 2006 20:03:18 GMT -4
Woot, back up to 54% now! Thats 5 games ive won in a row! Im afraid to play anymore and lose my winning streak!
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Post by boorules60 on Sept 9, 2006 20:49:22 GMT -4
We're you online? I was online at 8 and didn't see you! This damn IP won't let me connect to anything (except noob games it seems). We should all meet up on monday
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Post by pcups on Sept 9, 2006 20:54:15 GMT -4
what the hell is monday?
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Post by d on Sept 9, 2006 20:54:16 GMT -4
I don't like hussars (spahis are nicer) I don't like abus guns (not cost effective) I really like using grenadiers on strelets, musketeers. longbowmen, pikemen, minutemen etc. It's a lot of fun. I would suggest you build an outpost in Tim's town Pcups. With my grenadiers, you won't have one left in your town after 8:30. Boo's right your stable goes first.
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Post by boorules60 on Sept 9, 2006 20:58:01 GMT -4
I'm saying we should meet online monday and play play play. I wont have too much work or anything. Dunno if Tim has started his job or not yet. And D, I think albus guns are a good way to counter Spanish/Russian rushes cuz they waste all infantry at that point. Believe me, jans are not a cost effective solution to my strelets!
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Post by pcups on Sept 9, 2006 20:58:12 GMT -4
Tim can build his own towers, each persons base is his own, except for units.
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Post by boorules60 on Sept 9, 2006 21:00:00 GMT -4
I think the next step is to make Tim build ANY units in the second age.
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Post by boorules60 on Sept 9, 2006 21:00:22 GMT -4
Unless he can wall in our base with banks :-D
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