Ultimate dream patch

[boorules60]

Ultimate dream patch
(I stole this from AoE community... let me know what you think)

Boosts
- 2 oguns shipment back to 3
- oguns x2 v HI
- oguns HP boost
- kanyas cheaper
- kanyas hp boost
- aztec +100 starting food
- skull knights and dog soldiers appear slightly faster
- cav archers have 30% ranged armour instead of melee
- cav archers range + LOS increased
- uhlans cheaper
- russian units train back to vanilla stats
- german shipments back to vanilla stats
- grenadiers increased range + LOS
- grenadiers animation/rof faster
- grenadiers attack increased
- grenadiers no longer 'heavyinfantry'
- 8 cacadores back to 9 cacadores
- early dragoons also makes ranged cav slightly cheaper permanently
- age 4 fort cards also increase fort attack
- house of braganca also increases trade income (ala silk road but not to that extent)
- crossbows attack greatly increased
- ports overall sexier
- ironclads hitpoints increased
- revolution shipments faster

Nerfs
- iro wc eagle eye attack decreased
- abus down to 20% ranged armour
- abus decreased attack
- rods siege and attack greatly decreased
- wardogs more expensive
- lancers hp decreased
- spanish 2 falcs turns into a 3 falcs card for age 4
- cetans no bonus vs HI
- spanish overall suckier

Other changes
- aztec smoking mirrors card no longer kills allies
- aztec tc no longer shoots cannon at ships - try a big rock or something instead.
- tommys no longer look like they're firing rifles as they throw axes


Not all of this is needed. Some of it would completely screw the game. But a lot of it is essential.

Though I think we still don't have the best grasp on the game. Some cards, like Advanced Scouts and National Unity - will likely not be nerfed and they are already potentially OP, just underused for cards of their strength. I also have a feeling Bow Riders will be used more often sometime. Lastly, French are so balanced it's unreal.

[boorules60]

Here's what I think, but not having played in a while, you'll have to tell me what you know

-The Ports and the Germans really do need help. No-one is playing them and they pretty much suck ass. Patrick has had good fortune as the ports but the stats say otherwise

-Dogs and Skull knights do not need to train faster. Perhaps instead they could have a 4th age card that makes them train faster and/or increase the fire pit limit by 5 (20%)

-I also think a card would be the perfect solution to grenadiers as well. If all of these changes took place, grenadiers would be so OP in the second age that I couldn't control myself. They should have a third age card for the Russians and Ottomans (the two civs that have RG grenadiers) that increases LoS, RoF, Range, and possibly attack of grenadiers. No one can complain that they are OP late game

-Xbows are a but UP... maybe +2 range or attack could help

-The Spanish do need a bit of a hit in the balls. His suggestion might be a little extreme, but it's OK because it fucks Patrick

-The Iroquois aren't THAT OP are they? I mean, the sheep thing could kick ass but only smart people would even think to do it and only the motivated people would actually us it

-Early Dragoons should apply to Calv Archers if it doesn't already. I also like his cavalry archer upgrades

-Spies suck and should move faster to chase down stealth and WC better. When was the last time you lost a game... or even a battle because of spies? Didn't think so. Worthless

-At the same time, Mercs also suck. The saloon has completely obsoleted them... their cost should be reduced

-The Sioux Warchief is OP. Needs a lower attack and/or aura range

-I also think the Rifle Riders should lose some siege. They are not dog soldiers and do not deserve to be good against everything... especially at range! I did find that a strelet calv archer combo really eats away at those little bastards though which means big loses for Tim at the next party

-The Russian team 25% train thing should work the way it's fucking supposed to. 40% at the church... 40% for Fencing school... and 25% team fencing school means that my entire team has instant infantry if they have the cards and upgrades. Stupid ES, learn how to program

-Musketeers should build or move faster

-Advanced Market should reduce or eliminate the tribute fee entirely

-Medicine sucks and should be increased to 25% rather than 15%... this would help the Europeans keep up with the native settler production

-The Russian revolution should always fail except against the French, OR until the game has lasted until the 1990s

-The Spell Check feature on this forum should have a learn feature so it actually knows that I'm spelling Warchief, Strelet, Civ, Firepit, Merc, LoS, Orp, Xbow... and everything else goodly.

[pcups]

Well ben, Yea it would make the grenadiers very OP, so i doubt they will ever do that. Organ guns dont need more HP, they need to be faster. By all means they are "light artillery", so just like every "light" unit in the game, htey should have the advantage of hitting and running.

Grendiers are "siege troopers" not heavy infrantry, the only things that have bonuses against them are lancers. I dont know what else though. Maybe ruyters and dragoons.

Spanish dont need that much of a nerf, ES did that already and they corrected their mistakes, more expensive war dogs might work. Lancers dont need their HP decreased, they already cost a fuck load, decrease their HP and decrease their cost.

The eagle eye tech for hte iro WC is kinda OP, i would say make the down time 1 minute, like a crack shot and not 30 seconds. I do agree with x bows needing a boost.

I kinda agree witht he skull knight/ war dog thing.

Spain has had every 3rd age shipment nerfed from the original spain. If they nerfed the spanish 3rd age AGAIN, they will become totally useless.