Better than puma?

[punkybruster]

6 tom shipment
200w starting out
starting travois + an age up travois (with fast ageup)
5, 10, 15 big button

An irquois+ottoman slingshot could be pretty formidable; the ottos never need to stop building vils (for free), and they start with 400 wood. That means all vils stay on food (toms are only 25w apiece).

Advantages of toms over puma:
--toms pwn vils, minutemen, 8 xbows, pikes, 6 muskets, etc.
(pumas aren't good at killing units)
--2 free travois
--only need to collect one resource (less micro)
--ottos never need to stop building vils and can send ALL resources to the iroquois
--puma is classified as seige trooper (minutemen have 2x vs them) and have fewer HP

Disadvantage:
--not as much seige (20 per tom vs. 36 per jag or 48 per puma)

[boorules60]

Advantage:
-War Hut Tavois means no vills need to build it, walk up there, and can stay on resources all times
-Abus and grens both availible to Ottos along with
-Longhouses are handy for preserving early wood
-Able to get MORE toms than pumas because of no gold gathering
-Iroquois WC is better overall
-Aennas and Kenyas are better than Machs and Coyotes

Disadvantage:
-100 Gold as an initial start seems like an waste unless we can somehow get the 500 needed for the second wave (with 300 gold shipment as the Ottos first/second shipment maybe?)
-Ottos start with 1 less peasant
-No Team 3 vill shipment
-Toms are a bit slower than pumas at least
-No Warrior Priest

Def. needs some testing but I really like the idea. I think we can make the attack happen sooner, and with greater numbers.

[boorules60]

I really do like the Tomahawk idea even better than the pumas in most situations. Tim and I haven't tried it for real yet because I only have a level 10-11 Iroquois yet, and we really need more like 15 to make it kick ass.

The latest development is that the Ottomans are indeed the best for this kind of slingshot because of all the extra wood and the free, nonstop vills. This is ironic because this whole slingshot thing really started and the Ottomans GETTING slingshoted, not the other way around.

I can't play ages any more at school but I'll be home on the 11th (Friday) so I see no reason not to have an Ages party the first weekend I'm back at the apt.