Dutch balance

[pcups]

this could go off my other thread but sitting here in colorado, i thought of osmething that MIGHT affect the dutch. Here ill just post what i said on ages heaven.

Sorry, i know you guys must be tired of hearing how the dutch are terrible, they are. I have never played the dutch and i never will, i just had an idea that might solve the problem.

The problem with the dutch isnt their economy, yes they can be outboomed by anyother civ, late game that is, but they are very fast in maxing out their economy.

The problem is their units just "die". no other way to put it. Dutch have to rely on ruyters because they are the royal guard unit, well why not just make ruyters normal and give either dutch hussars or skirmies the royal guard upgrade, i mean the royal guard aint helping the dutch now, so why not switch it. This wouldnt force dutch players to build ruyters, it would allow them to get some industrial units that are decent.

[boorules60]

Again, coming from a French/Russian player, the Dutch are really not that bad. Yeah, their economy shits the bed late late game but think, they can build 150 military units! That's a fuckload. Who needs Royal Guard when you can outnumber your opponents by 50%. They also don't have many good unit cards so they can focus their deck on economy for banks, resource shipments, and farm/plantation upgrades. Your Spanish and Germans work quite well against them where as my French and Russians don't. There are some civs who are better suited for beating others... The Dutch are the only civ that I just can't beat in the 5th age because I dont have any heavy infantry and I cant mass heavy cannons. In contrast, I can beat the fuck out of the portuguese because they have no really good cavalry (my weakness) and they don't have a great rush. Thats how it goes

[pcups]

Well, with the french having royal guard skirmies and having the 1.5 against ranged calvary, the dutch are just having a hard time with ruyters.

At least this is the PoV of most people on the internet, tim needs to comment on this one, since he actually plays the dutch.